EDLD+5363+Pre-Production

=**Ok, here we go again: Let's find a topic!!!! **= 2. (Christy) I am open to any topic....we can do something with money. What age group are we going after? And, we need to decide who does what job? Has anyone email our Academic Coach to let her know who is all in the group? I will be leaving out of town for a few days, but I will have access to email. I will check the wiki Friday evening when I get home. Please email me if there is anything I can do. I haven't had a vacation in many, many years. I need this badly! 3. (Christy) Why is my license not showing up correctly on my wiki page? I know there is something I haven't clicked on, but I can't find it!!! 4. (Petra) What license Christy? Meredith texted me and had an idea: what about **pirating movies or songs**. I am not sure how it would work, we could always get a little video of someone with handcuffs in a movie store, or what about **teenache abstenace**? On the way back from the lake we saw a sign that one in four teenagers has a STD. 5. (Christy) the creative common license....it is showing up in code at the bottom of my video, but not as yours? I don't know I will just leave it for now. Leaving for VACATION and my son's laptop just went out..Any topic will be great. I will check email tomorrow and I will see what you guys need me to do. Thanks 6. (Petra) I just copied and pasted that in there, and then deleted parts of it. We probably don't need to do that. I just was not sure about what to do with the license. Will you invite me to your wiki? 7. (Darlene) I like the pirating movies or songs. We have had so much emphasis on copyright law and giving proper credit. Plus, I think it could be "cute" as well as informative. However, I'm good with whatever the group wants to do. 8. (Darlene) I now have yahoo messenger, but don't know how to use it yet. My screen name is billyedarlene. 9. (Meredith) Oh MY GOODNESS....now that I am able to access it, I can comment. Sorry, I missed the meeting on Yahoo tonight. I will edit the video, Movie Maker became my friend last week. If we just have to gather videos and not have to actually video anything...I can look up videos about our topic and do voiceovers. Since all we have to do this week is the proposal, once we get a topic, I will work on the videos and shots this weekend. We can change all of it through the next 2 weeks, this is just a plan. All plans change once the videoing starts. 10. I am going to post the question on our dicussion board...Do we video tap real footage, or just use video clips that already exist and make a PSA?
 * 1) ===(Petra) We need a topic:  //__It only has to be 60 seconds long, include text, or graphic effects, cant be to difficult.__// I got so tired of Movie Maker and ADOBE (which my computer would not install), I downloaded **Ulead.** It looks really good. On Movie Maker, I even had a hard time getting the text on the correct slide. It just did not work like it said it would.  ===

**We need to meet to discuss a topic: Does anyone have the yahoo messenger? Maybe we could come up with a time to all meet. My screen name is Petra703. ** (Christy) - I have yahoo, but it won't let me sign on....I have it on my iphone, so if we talk using yahoo I can join in. My screen name is hairgirl74 =__**Here is our topic: **__=
 * 1) **__Pirating movies or songs:__ **(Meredith) I like this one because it is what I know, there are a lot of videos on you tube about this. I just need to know for sure IF we are videoing or if we are just using existing video and doing voiceovers.
 * 2) Christy emailed and thought we could show a jail at the end of the video. (What about handcuffs lol)
 * 3) (Petra) If it is ok with you guys I would like to do some research and start writing a the narration about it. Meredith give me some ideas what you were thinking about?
 * 4) <span style="color: rgb(0,0,255);">(Darlene) I LOVE our topic! I will be happy to do the voiceover or whatever needs to be done except adding the music. I can't seem to figure out how to import songs from my iTunes account...
 * 5) <span style="color: rgb(128,0,128);">(Petra) I have been so busy all day today. I will try to work on the narration all day tomorrow and put it in the document so we can add and edit it. A friend of mine was diagnosed with cancer today. Please PRAY FOR HIM.
 * 6) (Darlene) My best friend was killed in a one car accident yesterday. She was an only child and is survived by only her 78 year old mother. Prayers for her also.
 * 7) (Petra) Oh Darlene I am so sorry to hear this. My heart goes out to her mother and you for all the pain I know you are going through. I will pray!! It puts all our little problems so far into the background.
 * 8) (Christy) Darlene, I have been trying to add music from iTunes to Movie Maker, but when I go to the iTunes folder it just shows the titles and no music. What is your issue with iTunes? I would like to figure it out.
 * 9) (Darlene) I have the same problem. I ran the mouse over the titles and it shows an MP4 extension. Maybe that's the problem. I also thought it could be because the music was purchased from Apple and maybe there is a copyright issue, but I also had music from cd's on iTunes that showed up the same way.


 * <span style="font-size: 110%; color: rgb(255,0,0);">(Petra) Ok guys here is the narration. I know it is longer than a minute. We can add or subtract anything we need to. I guess it depends what is easy to videotape. I really did not know what you all wanted. Let's tweak it like we need it. **

__**Narration:**__
Pay attention, piracy is bad news! You would not think about stealing music CD’s or movies from the store, so why is it ok to steal these items online? Yet, millions of computer literature Americans steal and trade music, movies and even computer programs through the internet and peer-to-peer file sharing. One of the problems is that this new 21st century computer savvy generation has grown up thinking and dealing with technology in different ways. Having spent their lives surrounded with tools of the digital age, like iPods’, cell phones and video games, the concept of illegal pirating to them is nothing but sharing and trading amongst each other. After all, why buy an entire CD, if only one or two songs on it are good? Most young people believe that pirating is OK, since it does not hurt anyone. Wrong! Every year it costs the economy billions of dollars, and thousands of jobs are lost due to this infringement of copyrights. Many anti-pirate software programs have been developed to help stop this crime; however, smart computer hackers have always been able to bypass them. The fact remains pirating is a crime! Copyright laws prohibit unauthorized copies of any music, movies or other software. These laws protect the individuals and the value of their creative work. Violators of this law will be prosecuted! The Recording Industry Association of America ([]) has made it their goal to combat piracy, inform the public, and educate parents and young people about downloading illegal materials from the internet. Remember, do not break the law, it has consequences.

(Darlene) Sounds good Petra. I just added a couple of question marks.

(Petra) What is next, who can videotape and write up some shots? Has anyone emailed Daphne about the members in our group?
(Christy) Ok guys, back from vacation. What is going on.....catch me up and I will do whatever is needed. How do we work this? Will we turn in one paper for all of us or 4 seperate papers. I am going to go thru everything tonite and see what all is needed. Please let me know what I need to do. Thanks for allowing me to take a little mini vacation. (Petra) We need to come up with the shots for the video if you guys like the narration below, and of course than we need to edit it with the video editer and narrate it. I put the assignment on the bottom of this page, we can all turn in the same assignments for the weeks, but we all do need to turn them in. I cannot find my firewire for my camera, and of course I don't know how to use it either to transfer any video shots to the computer. Ohh so much fun!!! (Darlene) Petra, I'll be glad to take some shots and write up some shots. My video skills are not great, but I can get some footage started if you would like me to.

<span style="color: rgb(0,0,128);">(<span style="color: rgb(0,128,0);">Meredith) I like the narrative. I will read the narrative over video clips for the assignment. I have pirating clips for my classes to watch, I can put them together and do the narrative. I am still on vacation until tomorrow. I will get on Sunday and work on this more, looking at the assignment etc. I have video clips of Metallica talking about pirating and how they shut down Napster in the 90's. Pirating music, random clips from FBI etc. I also have interviews with other musicians about pirating and what it does.

<span style="color: rgb(0,128,0);">Thanks Petra for the script, it is good. <span style="color: rgb(0,0,255);">(Darlene) I think we need to video our own clips. You might check with Daphne to see if we can used downloaded clips. (Petra) We do nee to shoot our own clips, but I don't think we need them until the next week. I think all we need is all the planning and shot ideas for this week.

(Christy) The narration is great. We can use digital pics too, right? I thought maybe we could show a collage of different artists who were involved in the movement against stealing (downoaded) songs. If not done yet I will email Daphne our group names. Please leave first and last name next time that you post. Do we have a title to our PSA? I was thinking we could incorporate a Pirate picture? IDK, just thinking about keeping everything on some kind of theme? What do y'all think? (Christy) We need to decide who is what...unless y'all have and I missed it. (Director, scriptwriter....etc) I was thinking our purpose would be to deter society from participating in pirated software, music and songs and to inform society about the effects of piracy on the economy and law. Target audience will be pre-teens, teens and young adults. Program length is one minute.....costumes, sets, props, locations....to change in the coming weeks. I have a teenage son, I thought maybe I could video him downloading music, from his laptop and his cell phone. we can use that as a shot..or two! Let's see, one shot could be him laying across his bed in front of his laptop with his mp3 player beside him showing him dowmloading from itunes and another shot of him using his phone to download music to his phone. He is 16 and I was think if we could get video of a younger kid doing the same thing we could show these shots during the narration part that begins with "One of the problems" and ending with that paragraph. Should we (or can we) show news clips of the recession or a "fake" stock report when the narration talks about the effects on the economy. These are just ideas, let me know what I need to do. What ever shot list we decide upon for this week's assigment can change by week 5 we just have to record the changes on the assignment sheet. (Darlene Jones) Christy ,that sounds good. I think you should definately take some shots of your son. You might even take some shots of him in a store picking up a cd, start to put it in his pocket/shirt/pants, shake his head "No" and put it back. We could put a "no" symbol or an X over the cd.

<span style="color: rgb(0,0,255);">(Petra Hagan) I LOVE ALL YOUR IDEAS Christy. __//I still need to write the **script outline**, what do you guys think we show do on that//__. I guess I could make a list of the main points of the narration and may be the shopts. <span style="color: rgb(128,0,128);">

<span style="color: rgb(128,0,128);">
<span style="color: rgb(128,0,128);">Pirating, Don't Do IT!, or 21st Century Pirats, or Free may not be Cheap,

<span style="color: rgb(0,0,255); font-family: 'Comic Sans MS',cursive;">(Christy)*I love "21st Century Pirates"....maybe we can have a pirate head as the opening scene, with the title running across it. (Darlene) I like "21st Century Pirates" also. <span style="color: rgb(0,128,0);">(Meredith) I love the 21st Century Pirates...and the Pirate at the opening scene...

**Shotlist: (from Christy)**
1. Teenager downloading music, from his laptop and his cell phone. 2. Teenager laying across his bed in front of his laptop with his mp3 player beside him showing him dowmloading from itunes and another shot of him using his phone to download music to his phone. 3. Shot of a younger kid doing the same thing we could show these shots during the narration part that begins with with "One of the problems" and ending with that paragraph. we can have one shot of just downloaded cd's everywhere.....somehow make it multigenerational...just an idea 4. Shot of a courthouse and the police department or even the jail. May be a final scene with a kid in hand cuffs. 5. Consumers bying music and movies at bestbuy store and and ending scene of the money(dollar signs)s they lose and a scene of a working employee that may lose his job. 6. Shot of a group of kids showing their CD's with written downloaded songs on them talking about the music and asking each other to make each other CD's. 7. Take a shot scene of the copyrights or pictures of anything we need to include. <span style="color: rgb(0,128,0);">(Meredith O'Bannion) Sorry, just got back in from vacation this afternoon. Spent some time with our 5 year old who was left behind and now I am back. I love the shot list.
 * Shotlist ideas: (Petra Hagan)**


 * <span style="color: rgb(255,0,0);">(Petra)I don't know guys, we can change it all in the next two weeks, for know we just need to write it all up. As soon as you let me kinow how what you think the outline should include I will write it. **

(Christy) I think that this shot list is good....we really need to just have something for turning in this week. If....and we will....change anything we just have to document it on the last assignment. I think this is all really good. I will be using everything on this page to fill out assignment #3 this week. I will send it to everyone on sunday evening.

(Petra) Thanks Christy!!! I hope you had a good time at your vacation. Any ideas about the outline? I can sure do the outline on the narration, I just was not sure if this included also the shots, kind of like storyboarding. I can write it up any which way and paste it on here. Christy you can than paste iit in the document. Let me know.

(Darlene) Petra, I think the shots need to be in the same order as the script so that each shot has its own "script." That can be the "storyboard." When we get the shots, we can manipulate them so that they flow in a natural order. I will be happy to do the narration and/or help write and edit the script. <span style="color: rgb(0,128,0);">(Meredith O'Bannion) The actual footage can be shot in any order and I will put it together and I can edit it..whatever ya'll need me to do. I think the shots of Christy's son will be great. We defintely need to use a teenager or two so we can hit that target. They will not listen to anyone much older than them if we are trying to make something. Maybe he can be our final critic. WHATEVER ya'll need me to do, please let me know. THANKS to all of you who have worked so hard on this while I was away also. I highly recommend Carmel to all of you, it was WONDERFUL!!!

__//**<span style="color: rgb(255,0,0);">(Petra) OK, here is the outline: Please tell me if this looks like what you were thinking about. Please feel free to change anything you want. **//__
PSA Outline __Voice over narration and introduction of the topic:__ Pay attention, piracy is bad news! __Location / Time:__ Undecided __Voice over narration:__ Yet, millions of computer literature Americans steal and trade music, movies and even computer programs through the internet and peer-to-peer file sharing. __Location / Time:__ Undecided __Voice over narration:__ One of the problems is that this new 21st century computer savvy generation has grown up thinking and dealing with technology in different ways. Having spent there lives surrounded with tools of the digital age, like iPods’, cell phones and videogames, the concept of illegal pirating to them is nothing but sharing and trading amongst each other. __Location__: Teenager’s bedroom __Time:__ Evening __Voice over narration:__ After all, why buy an entire CD, if only one or two songs on it are good. Location / Time: Undecided __Voice over narration:__ Most young people believe that pirating is ok, since it does not hurt anyone. Wrong! __Background Information:__ Undecided __Voice over narration:__ Every year it costs the economy billions of dollars, and thousands of jobs are lost due to this infringement of copyrights. __Location:__ Best Buy, or Wal-Mart __Time:__ Undecided __Voice over narration:__ Many anti pirate software programs have been developed to help stop this crime; however, smart computer hackers have always been able to bypass them. __Location / Time:__ Undecided __Voice over narration:__ The fact remains pirating is a crime! Copyright laws prohibit unauthorized copies of any music, movies or other software. These laws protect the individuals and the value of their creative work. Violators of this law will be prosecuted! Location: Courthouse __Voice over narration:__ Remember, do not break the law, it has consequences. Location / Time: Undecided
 * Title:** 21st Century Pirates
 * Opening Scene**: Filming of pirates.
 * Second Scene:** Teenager downloading music, from his laptop and his cell phone.
 * Third Scene:** Teenager lying across his bed in front of his laptop with his mp3 player beside him showing him downloading from iTunes and another shot of him using his phone to download music to his phone.
 * Fourth Scene:** Shot of a younger kid doing the same, sharing and exchanging music with other teenagers (or parents)
 * Fifth Scene:** A shot scene of the copyrights or pictures of anything we need to include zooming in and out.
 * Sixth Scene:** Consumers buying music and movies at Best Buy store and ending scene of the money(dollar signs)s they lose and a scene of a working employee that may lose his job.
 * Seventh Scene:** Shots of a group of kids showing their CD's with written downloaded songs on them talking about the music and asking each other to make each other CD's.
 * Eighth Scene:** Shots of a courthouse and the police department or even the jail. May be a final scene with a kid in hand cuffs?
 * Ninth Scene:** May be a final scene with a kid in hand cuffs?

<span style="color: rgb(0,0,255);">(Darlene) Petra, that is awesome! <span style="color: rgb(0,128,0);">(Meredih) I love it. We can definetly make changes through he next two weeks if we need to. It all works out so well. We can fill it all in and turn this in for today. THANKS again. I will be able to do more over the next two weeks. I will be gone again this Friday-Monday, but that is all.


 * Meredith...I just inserted all that I could into the assignment, I will e-mail it out. Please fill in and change anything. I did not know what to put on the deadlines. Who ever changes it, will ya'll send it back to me today? If someone else did this, I did not recieve it. Wanted to do more since I was gone last week. Thanks.

(Petra) Looks good, I am ready to turn in things for this week.** (Christy) I tried to put a copy on here for everyone, but when I got on my computer this morning I guess I sent it to my desktop because that is where it is. Petra, if you sent a copy to me I didn't get it. Will you resend. I want to make sure we all our on the same page. I will be taking my video tomorrow and I will email and we can see what we need to change. Email addresses: DJones8740@aol.com petra718@aol.com iwsicnh@hotmail.commobannion@eanesisd.net

(Darlene) Please send it to me too! I don't have it either! Thanks!

(Petra) Here it is, I just fixed a few spelling mistakes, that is all.
== [|EDLD 5363 Proposal Week 3.doc]==

=__**<span style="font-size: 150%; color: rgb(255,0,0);">Week 4: **__=

(Petra) Hi guys, could we please try to organize ourselves for this week and divide the tasks like you had offered?
<span style="color: rgb(255,0,0);">__ **TIMELINE:** __ Do you think this part could be done by **Wednesday or Thursday** so we can try to finish a little earlier. I know Meredith is going out of town again and I would like to go to Denton to see my two daughters in college.

__**Christy:**__ Can you still take some of the scene shots of a pirate, your son and the other teenagers or whatever shots or stillpics you can.

__**Darlene:**__ Can you take the other shots since you also have a camera like you offered? I can not find my firewire to transfer the videos to the computer.

__**Petra:**__ I also will take some shots.

Yes Petra. Which shots do you want me to take? <span style="color: rgb(0,0,255);">Christy, if you will email me or add to the bottom of this page, I will take some shots for us.

__**Meredith/Petra;**__ Meredith,you had said Movie Maker is now easy for you, maybe after they sent us all the clips you and I can try to put it together. I downloaded Ulead, so I can try with that too.

<span style="font-size: 110%; color: rgb(255,0,0); font-family: 'Arial Black',Gadget,sans-serif;">We will somehow also need to probably cut down the narration to only include the most important parts!!! We also need some music. Any suggestions?

=<span style="background-color: rgb(255,255,0);"><span style="color: rgb(0,0,255); font-family: 'Arial Black',Gadget,sans-serif;">I made room on the "PSA Workspace" page, so we can all put our videos and shots and music et <span style="color: rgb(0,0,255);">c. **on it to share.** =


 * <span style="font-size: 160%; color: rgb(128,0,128); font-family: 'Comic Sans MS',cursive;">Please let me know if this sounds OK to you? **

(Christy) This sounds great! My son is having friends over tomorrow I will just have him take some videos of them playing around with the laptop and cds. I will start looking for a pirate scene....does anyone mind if we use a digital pic if I can't find a pirate video? Music suggestions....I will hunt around I am thinking something with a beat, lively almost....but when I used Movie Maker I could not get narration and music to play at the same time....maybe it was just me. We can do this ladies, it only has to 60 OR LESS! Remember its 60 seconds or less. I am thinking that around 45 minimum....what do y'all think? <span style="color: rgb(0,128,0);">(Meredith) Yes, Movie Maker is not hard for me now. I knew how to work it, but it kept shutting down on me when I was teaching it to my kids. I was able to do a narration and music on it too. IF we can get all the videos online where I can access then, I can edit the video all by Thursday before I leave. I just need all the video. Our biggest problem is going to be editing it, getting it out there for review and assesment and then getting comments back to me so I can change things. I cannot remember righ now, but we don't have to turn in the completed video this week, just any changes to our plan, right? I will go look. My husband has a BUNCH of music. I can find something that will fit. We will look and I can post some ideas so ya'll can pick the one you like. Petra, I like the way you broke up the duties above. I will look at the assingment later today and I will get back on and see what else needs to be done. <span style="font-size: 130%; color: rgb(0,128,0);">IF we give credit to Disney at the end of our video, can we use a few clips from a movie trailer of Pirates of the Caribbean? I found some video on You Tube. I can change it for Movie Maker. I just wanted to double check since we are not making money from the video, just using it for education, that is what I teach my kids, but wanted to make sure. I have it just in case we can use it. <span style="color: rgb(0,128,0);">Just double checked, we don't really have anything to turn in "officially". We have to do audacity, video, and update the proposal if we see fit, but it doesn't say anything about actually submitting anything. Am I wrong? I will find music and if we can get all the video on this wiki or send to me in some other way, I will start editing it next week when I get back early in the week so we can all evaluate it and get it done before the end of the week. Is this what seems like what needs to be done? (Petra) I do think we should admit what we have, it does just not have to be the final product. __I love all of your ideas, they sound so great.__ Yes, we can do this! I have a really dumb question, what exactly do they mean by __audacity__? I downloaded the free version of Ulead, which was so easy to do, and the program does look also simple Meredith. Look at it and tell me if it may be easier than Movie Maker. I had problems with narration and music at at the same time as well. By the way, I had a **horrible** highlight job done to my hair today. I could scream. I can not get it fixed until Thursday, so now I have to walk around with a cap!!! (Meredith) Audacity is a music mixer program, but you can record voiceovers with it. Once it is done, it needs to be saved as a MP3 file so Movie Maker will be able to read it. It is normally used to mix music, I am not quite sure why we are using it to narrate. We can do voiceover in Movie Maker, but whatever. I have never used ULead, what is that? I guess we wait to see what Darlene and Christy say about the plan and go from there. Sorry about your hair. At least it is summer. There are a lot of cute hats and visors out right now. (Petra) OK, I feel stupid now after I started the weekly readings and they all are about audacity!!!! I guess that really was a dumb question. (Meredith) It was not a dumb question. I had to ask this past year. I had never heard of it. When you don't use it, you don't know what it is. It's OK. It is pretty user friendly and it can be fun when you want to mix music. Its the cheapest,(I think it is free, but I could be wrong).

(Darlene) I will work on some shots Thursday as well as working on the audio. **Christy, please let me know which ones I need to take**. My computer has been on the fritz and I have been babying it. I am putting it in the shop Thursday morning and have been promised to have it back the same afternoon. I definately want to have everything finished by Sunday night so we can send it in Monday morning. I have to be in Dallas participating in the preparation for a memorial service Monday night at 7:00 p.m. I will not return home until Wednesday night, but I will have internet service at the hotel.I can be reached by email: DJones8740@aol.com or by cell phone 832-654-9827 at any time.

(Petra) I downloaded Audacity, and it is free. **<span style="color: rgb(255,0,0);"> Let's decide on some music, any ideas anyone: If you have something, load it on the "webpages" page. What does pirate music even sound like, lol? ** (Meredith) It sounds like we need to do the narration in Audacity,not the music. The music can just be put on the actual video. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe we can just use some Indian Jones type music. It will be low in the background anyway. I will work on it tomorrow and see what I can find. What exactly are we turning in for Monday? I am leaving town Friday morning and will not be back here until around midnight Monday. I need to really turn something in tomorrow. We just need an updated version of our assignment we turned in this past week? Can I make some updates, send it to ya'll and we just agree to turn that in for now? Do we have any shots taken at all? I guess I just need to know what needs to be done. I am not sure I will be able to get on a computer at the hotel. I am guessing there should be one in the lobby. I will check the Wiki and my e-mail if I can. Sorry, this is the last trip I am taking this summer. This time it is just the girls. Cannot wait. Will miss my hubby and daughter, but wow, 4 days with my girls...who could ask for more. PLEASE let me know what I can do to offer help for this week and I will get it done tomorrow. I will look for some music and post it on the Webpage link by tomorrow afternoon.

OK, check out the the webpage link for music ideas. I also sent all of you the updated version of our proposal. Make changes or suggestions, I might just turn in this one if I don't hear from ya'll tomorrow, just so I can have an assignment to turn in. Sorry. (Petra) Meredith, have fun!!!!! If we change what you sent, I email it to you, so you can turn it in Monday night when you get back if you want to. <span style="color: rgb(0,128,0);">Darlenecould you maybe try to take the shots 5 to 9. I am so sorry that I do not have the capability to do that. Christy may have done shot #5. Check with her. =<span style="color: rgb(0,128,0);"> = none //Optional:// a note about this edit for the page history log

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